Articles | Volume 16, issue 2
https://doi.org/10.5194/hgss-16-51-2025
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The role of point discharge in the historical development of atmospheric electricity
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- Final revised paper (published on 07 Nov 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on hgss-2025-4', Michael J. Rycroft, 24 Jul 2025
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Blair McGinness, 29 Jul 2025
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RC2: 'Reply on AC1', Michael J. Rycroft, 30 Jul 2025
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RC2: 'Reply on AC1', Michael J. Rycroft, 30 Jul 2025
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Blair McGinness, 29 Jul 2025
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EC1: 'Comment on hgss-2025-4', Kristian Schlegel, 31 Jul 2025
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AC2: 'Reply on EC1', Blair McGinness, 06 Aug 2025
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RC3: 'Reply on AC2', Michael J. Rycroft, 07 Aug 2025
- AC4: 'Reply on RC2', Blair McGinness, 27 Aug 2025
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RC3: 'Reply on AC2', Michael J. Rycroft, 07 Aug 2025
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AC2: 'Reply on EC1', Blair McGinness, 06 Aug 2025
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RC4: 'Comment on hgss-2025-4', Graeme Marlton, 11 Aug 2025
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (29 Aug 2025) by Kristian Schlegel
AR by Blair McGinness on behalf of the Authors (08 Sep 2025)
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ED: Publish as is (09 Sep 2025) by Kristian Schlegel
AR by Blair McGinness on behalf of the Authors (19 Sep 2025)
This clearly written paper provides an interesting historical review of the phenomenon of point discharge currents (PDCs) from pointed objects on the ground to the surrounding atmosphere, and their relationship to the ambient atmospheric electric field (whose magnitude is the potential gradient, but with the opposite sign).
Section 2 valuably discusses PDC observations made about a century ago. I wonder whether it would be good to use the data shown in Fig. 2 to plot a graph, having twelve points, showing PDC (y-axis) against Thunderstorms (x-axis), The correlation coefficient could be calculated, and the significance of the result assessed. Then thunderstorms having a dipole structure or a tripole structure are usefully discussed.
Section 3 considers other PDC observations, such as using radiosondes. Who was the S. Chapman mentioned (around line 200)? The eminent physicist Sydney Chapman? Aircraft, rocket and spacecraft observations are further discussed. In Fig. 4 I wonder whether Rocket nose cone would be a better term than Rocket warhead. Further, various ground-based observations and measurements using trees are also reviewed.
Section 4 presents analytical and theoretical considerations of the topic.
Sections 5 gives the Conclusions, concisely.
Here are some detailed points which, in my opinion, require attention before publication.
Line 7. .... electric circuit, and the early evidence was found to support this model. ...
28. ... its ...
Fig. 1a. It would be better to have a photograph showing a clear gap between the metal support of the point discharge instruments and the more distant tower. Fig. 1b. Is there a paper which describes this instrument? If so, please give a reference.
75. ... Earth; however, in areas ...
77. It was ...
114. ... ionosphere, and restoring ...
282. ... instruments; however, they still have ...
285. aircraft
288. It could be useful to state that this desert is in northern Mexico and southwestern USA.
308. ... understood, however, was ...
Acknowledgements. ... undertaking of BM's PhD project, ...
My answers to the 9 questions: YES to the first 8, and NO to number 9.
Thank you for the opportunity to read this useful and well written paper.
Michael Rycroft.