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The Role of Point Discharge in the Development of Atmospheric Electricity
Abstract. Point discharge, like lightning, is an atmospheric electricity process which has been observed directly and indirectly for centuries. Point discharge occurs when an electric field is enhanced at a point, causing local ionisation of the air and allowing a current to flow between the object and atmosphere. Point discharge sensors are simple instruments which measure the discharge currents caused by enhancements of the atmospheric electric field. In the early 20th Century, several milestone atmospheric electricity investigations were performed which employed the effects of naturally occurring point discharge currents and the measurements made by point discharge sensors. Point discharge was central to some of the arguments made in the proposal of the global atmospheric electric circuit, and the early evidence found to support this model. Point discharge sensors continued to be used throughout the 20th and 21st centuries, with understanding of their operations being developed further in this time.
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RC1: 'Comment on hgss-2025-4', Michael J. Rycroft, 24 Jul 2025
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This clearly written paper provides an interesting historical review of the phenomenon of point discharge currents (PDCs) from pointed objects on the ground to the surrounding atmosphere, and their relationship to the ambient atmospheric electric field (whose magnitude is the potential gradient, but with the opposite sign).
Section 2 valuably discusses PDC observations made about a century ago. I wonder whether it would be good to use the data shown in Fig. 2 to plot a graph, having twelve points, showing PDC (y-axis) against Thunderstorms (x-axis), The correlation coefficient could be calculated, and the significance of the result assessed. Then thunderstorms having a dipole structure or a tripole structure are usefully discussed.
Section 3 considers other PDC observations, such as using radiosondes. Who was the S. Chapman mentioned (around line 200)? The eminent physicist Sydney Chapman? Aircraft, rocket and spacecraft observations are further discussed. In Fig. 4 I wonder whether Rocket nose cone would be a better term than Rocket warhead. Further, various ground-based observations and measurements using trees are also reviewed.
Section 4 presents analytical and theoretical considerations of the topic.
Sections 5 gives the Conclusions, concisely.
Here are some detailed points which, in my opinion, require attention before publication.
Line 7. .... electric circuit, and the early evidence was found to support this model. ...
28. ... its ...
Fig. 1a. It would be better to have a photograph showing a clear gap between the metal support of the point discharge instruments and the more distant tower. Fig. 1b. Is there a paper which describes this instrument? If so, please give a reference.
75. ... Earth; however, in areas ...
77. It was ...
114. ... ionosphere, and restoring ...
282. ... instruments; however, they still have ...
285. aircraft
288. It could be useful to state that this desert is in northern Mexico and southwestern USA.
308. ... understood, however, was ...
Acknowledgements. ... undertaking of BM's PhD project, ...
My answers to the 9 questions: YES to the first 8, and NO to number 9.
Thank you for the opportunity to read this useful and well written paper.
Michael Rycroft.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/hgss-2025-4-RC1
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